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[Apr. 19th, 2002|09:02 pm]
The Love Bug
Can anyone help?

I have tried every trick in the book... including all the tips offered by Microsoft.

I cannot get a Network Card working under Windows 95.

Can anyone offer help, tips, tricks, whatever to assist?

Update:
Sorry that wasn't very helpful, was it? :-)

The network card is recognised by Windows95, all drivers install ok.
But the card is disabled by Windows due to a haradware conflict.
However, the reason for the conflict is that Windows has allocated the lowest default values for the resources... i.e. IRQ3, IO 0x000-0x00FF, Memory 0x00000000-0x000000FF.
If I try and reallocate resources according to what the DOS-based diagnostics say, i.e. IRQ10, IO 0x6500, dunno about memory, Windows just locks up instantly. I can only change one of the resources, I don't get the chance to change any others. I've tried it under Safe Mode, but then Windows just doesn't boot at all.

Now try and help :-)
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[User Picture]From: lothie
2002-04-19 01:12 pm (UTC)
IRQ conflicts perhaps? Are you getting an error of some kind?
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[User Picture]From: thelovebug
2002-04-19 01:21 pm (UTC)
Sorry, please reread the post :-)
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[User Picture]From: lothie
2002-04-19 01:40 pm (UTC)
OK, I may be WAY off here, in which case go ahead and point and laugh but...

Just change the memory (obviously you have to figure out what it should be)? Looks like you haven't changed that. Then if it doesn't lock up, voila.
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[User Picture]From: stainsteelrat
2002-04-19 01:14 pm (UTC)
Sheesh Dave, are you going to give us some kind of hint? :-)

Does it appear in Device Manager? Do you have the correct drivers? Are protocols installed? ....
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[User Picture]From: thelovebug
2002-04-19 01:21 pm (UTC)
Sorry, please reread the post :-)
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[User Picture]From: stainsteelrat
2002-04-19 01:25 pm (UTC)
If you are using IRQ's that work in DOS, and this is an ISA card .... good luck! :-) It sounds like an ISA problem. From what I remember of long ago you have to find the *right* IRQ, which I remember being as 3 or 5 for some reason.

Ideally get a PCI card, if it isn't one, which are cheap as chips and easy to configure. And even more ideally, don't use Win 95 for networking :-)
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[User Picture]From: thelovebug
2002-04-19 01:27 pm (UTC)
This is a PCI card... well 3 different PCI cards.

And the only reason I want to network this machine is so that I can get off the stuff that the wife wants before I wipe it and install Linux! :-D
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[User Picture]From: stainsteelrat
2002-04-19 01:30 pm (UTC)
OK, nightmare scenario :-)

All I can think is to go into safe mode, remove all network protocols, go into Device Manager and delete all the NIC's and start again. Sounds like you might have hardware issues though ;-)

Gawd, the problems I remember having with ISA cards. It brought it all back! Maybe would be quicker to install a CD burner and burn the contents? ;-)
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[User Picture]From: thelovebug
2002-04-19 01:33 pm (UTC)
I've tried what you suggested :-)
And I don't have a CD burner.

Next...? :-)
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[User Picture]From: stainsteelrat
2002-04-19 01:35 pm (UTC)
As its to copy stuff off, how about chaining the hard disk up on the machine you are copying it to? Might save lots of GS&A ....
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[User Picture]From: stainsteelrat
2002-04-19 01:37 pm (UTC)
This is what I tend to do (as I don't use a LAN really at home) and it's always nice to see a hard disk dangling out precariously of a PC. You don't really need to do the ole pukka install. But I'm not sure on your hardware skills, so tell me to go jump ;-) I'm only sure of your BBC Basic programming skills :-)
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[User Picture]From: thelovebug
2002-04-19 01:37 pm (UTC)
Because this machine already has 3 HDDs in it! LOL
I suppose I could take one out.
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[User Picture]From: stainsteelrat
2002-04-19 01:39 pm (UTC)
Ah, but surely you can fit 4 in? 2 IDE ports? :-) Yes, or remove one. Or upgrade the 95 to 2000 or XP is another thought. All a bit tedious though.
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[User Picture]From: emsee
2002-04-19 01:38 pm (UTC)
Is it a PCI card?

Is there a option to reset the IRQ configuration in the BIOS? (can't remember what it's called exactly).

Does the card show up in device mangler?

What happens if you take out all the other non-essential cards like sound cards?

Have you tried it in a different slot?

Does it work in another PC?

Have you tried hitting it? that sometimes work?

You could always try threataning it with a sharp object too :)
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[User Picture]From: emsee
2002-04-19 01:42 pm (UTC)
Oops, just read your repost.

IIRC, If you click the top bit of the device mangler tree & then click properties, you can see what IRQ's, I/O addresses, etc are free & then set the card to those, though if its a PCI card then it should allocate everything automatically anyway...most odd.

I think the idea of just putting the drive in another machine would be simplest :)
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[User Picture]From: clicker
2002-04-19 03:27 pm (UTC)
Umm... upgrade to WIN98 second edition - it handles hardware conflicts IMMENSELY better! :) I had a computer that never worked right as it came under WIN95 - it was loaded with hardware extras and couldn't sort them out. When I moved it to WIN98, it was a lamb...
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[User Picture]From: brainlag
2002-04-20 12:10 am (UTC)

stop being such a cheapskate! :P

go and get a cheapo PCI card, I can recommend anything that's got a realtek 8139 chip in it (you'll see a picture of a crab on the main chip on the PCB)

They're cheap (1/5th of a 3Com 3x905TX-M), but very cheerful. Despite what other people may say, I've been running them for years without problem

Even *I* have put my mountain of ISA cards to rest (apart from the couple I've got sitting in a 486 :P )
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[User Picture]From: thelovebug
2002-04-20 01:45 am (UTC)

Re: stop being such a cheapskate! :P

Didn't read my previous comments, did you? :o)

I have tried 3 PCI cards:
  • 3Com 3C905B-TX
  • 3Com 3C900B-TPO
  • Netgear FA311

... all of which have worked perfectly in other machines.

It's Windows that's being an arse here, not the NICs :-)
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