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Mobile Phone Use... [Nov. 28th, 2005|01:39 pm]
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Yes, another post about my pet peeve...

The illegality of using a hand-held mobile phone whilst driving is not without its reason, purpose or justification.

The use of a hand-held mobile phone distracts the drivers attention, and affects their ability to react where necessary. Some may feel that this is the same with alcohol use.

If a driver is caught driving being 1% over the legal limit, they risk losing their licence and potentially gaining a custodial sentence. However, looking at the way drivers handle their cars whilst holding a mobile phone to their ear leads this author to believe that the punishment for doing so should carry the same penalty as that of drink driving.

It is the opinion of this author that hand-held mobile phone use has increased since legislation was imposed, although maybe I'm just noticing it more. I personlly don't believe that people think that using a hand-held mobile phone whilst driving affects the way they drive, and that makes them all the more dangerous.

The thing is, most mobile phones nowadays usually come with a free hands-free kit included. Even for those that don't, hands-free kits - wired or wireless - are not at all expensive, and very easy to come by.

Disclaimer: I should say that the use of a mobile phone with a hands-free kit should not be taken lightly, as it can still distract the attention of the driver... so caution should be exercised.
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[User Picture]From: kuzanagi_
2005-11-28 01:51 pm (UTC)
But how would I send texts if I used a hands-free kit?
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[User Picture]From: thelovebug
2005-11-28 02:00 pm (UTC)
Never heard of voice-to-text?!? *tut*
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[User Picture]From: kuzanagi_
2005-11-28 03:08 pm (UTC)
Good answer. Well, what about my Java games?! How will I play those whilst I'm on the M40, huh?
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[User Picture]From: brainlag
2005-11-28 03:19 pm (UTC)
Wait till you're parked up on the M25? ;)
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[User Picture]From: misspotsitt
2005-11-28 02:00 pm (UTC)
A few years ago I was in a taxi and the driver was actually texting while driving!
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[User Picture]From: thelovebug
2005-11-28 02:01 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I've often wondered what I would do if a taxi driver did that to me. I'd probably demand to be let out and get another taxi.
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From: princesswannabe
2005-11-28 07:04 pm (UTC)
I've known a couple of bus drivers do that. One actually nearly crashed as he veered towards some railings.
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[User Picture]From: crazybee
2005-11-28 10:22 pm (UTC)
*guilty as charged when i first got into txting*

only time i txt now when working is when I'm at my terminating point or on my break
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From: princesswannabe
2005-11-29 07:47 pm (UTC)
Your a bus driver?! I've seen you around on others LJs and thought you were some sort of photographer at uni lol
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[User Picture]From: crazybee
2005-11-29 10:57 pm (UTC)
I am, I just finished a part time degree in multimedia and was working part time on the buses still. Now full time on the buses and doing freelance work in multimedia
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[User Picture]From: rainb0w_brite
2005-11-28 02:10 pm (UTC)
i have to say this really annoying and makes me angry grrr
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From: brianjonesuk
2005-11-28 02:28 pm (UTC)
I personlly don't believe that people think that using a hand-held mobile phone whilst driving affects the way they drive, and that makes them all the more dangerous.

Let's ban car stereos whilst we're at it. Oh and passengers too, they are a distraction. Let's get rid of those ridiculous side widow things too just in case someone on the path, or another driver does something distracting... Oh yeah and manual gearboxes too, I mean you have to take your hand off the wheel to change gear.

I agree that texting whilst driving is stupid, I have done it from time to time, but I agree that it is idiotic. As for driving with a hand held mobile, sorry, but I disagree, I think it is a stupid law, sorry, my opinion. I for one don't believe that it changes the way that I drive and if someone was to offer a test to prove this I would gladly take it. I have been involved in a few minor knocks in my 13 years of driving, but none have been whilst on the phone, statistically proving that I am safer when I am on the phone. Statistics can be made to say anything.
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From: brianjonesuk
2005-11-28 02:43 pm (UTC)
Incidentally, this post has just sparked some interesting discussion here at work ;-) Thanks for making our afternoon slightly less boring :-)
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From: varno
2005-11-28 03:33 pm (UTC)
Hope thelovebug doesn't mind me stepping in here...

If I am to understand correctly, you do still use your mobile while driving. One question therefore, how do you change gear? Surely at some point in that operation, you will have no hands on the wheel? This cannot be safe?

Also, whether you agree with the reasons or not, it is illegal to drive whilst using a hand-held mobile phone. What would be your view, if for instance, you were knocked down at a crossing and later found out that person was using a mobile phone? Would you use that as a lever in the courts?
What if they were over the legal limit for alcohol (which is also illegal)?

As you say, a subject that can spark interesting discussions.
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From: brianjonesuk
2005-11-28 03:53 pm (UTC)
If I am to understand correctly, you do still use your mobile while driving.

yes.

One question therefore, how do you change gear? Surely at some point in that operation, you will have no hands on the wheel? This cannot be safe?

Strictly speaking my main vehicle is an automatic, but if I am driving a manual I will usually put the phone down to change gear, or simply not speak on the phone whilst on local roads. But not a problem in an automatic.

Also, whether you agree with the reasons or not, it is illegal to drive whilst using a hand-held mobile phone. What would be your view, if for instance, you were knocked down at a crossing and later found out that person was using a mobile phone?...

Yes, I would use this as a leaver in the court, of course I would, the same as if he was over the legal speed limit, something the majority of the population do on a daily basis. Are you telling me that individuals that have taken someone to court over causing an accident (allegedly) by driving fast, have never driven over the speed limit themselves? I think not.

I totally agree that it is illegal and that if caught I would be treated for breaking the law as I would if caught driving faster than the speed limit, being drunken disorderly in a public place, or watching TV without a license. Most people do things that are illegal and they know it is illegal.

In the UK the speed limit on all Motorways is 70mph, in Germany autobahns have no speed limit and German cars are limited to 155mph, does this make it safer to drive faster just because you are further east?!?! Once again, I think not.

At the end of the day these are my opinions, but it is interesting to see how opinions vary.
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From: varno
2005-11-28 04:02 pm (UTC)
As you quite rightly say, interesting how opinions vary :)

The one thing I do seriously object to (and wrote a rather snotty letter to that effect to the company concerned) was a school bus driver, using his mobile while carrying a bus full of kids! Surely someone who drives as their profession should respect the rules? And also the driving instructor, on his way to pick up a pupil, on his mobile phone with his front and rear fog lights on in the middle of a sunny day! Maybe I just enjoy writing snotty letters to these people? heh
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[User Picture]From: bj_world
2005-11-28 07:52 pm (UTC)
We have had at least one incident in the last year in Australia where a pedestrian was killed when the driver of the car was talking on her phone. The woman freely admitted in court that she was distracted by the conversation she was having and was not watching the road. Sadly for the pedestrian's family, which included small child, her moment of distraction is a lifetime sentence for them.

Take your point that you are a decent driver who could probably manage with a mobile phone in hand. Unfortunately, laws cannot be made with individuals in mind, hence why some laws are considered 'unfair' to some whilst being perfectly legitimate for others.
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From: brianjonesuk
2005-11-28 09:11 pm (UTC)
Unfortunately, laws cannot be made with individuals in mind, hence why some laws are considered 'unfair' to some whilst being perfectly legitimate for others.

I agree with you, but judging by some of the people on the roads, if you followed that theory we would have to ban driving at together, phone or no phone.... LOL.
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[User Picture]From: tean
2005-11-28 02:57 pm (UTC)
Agreed.

Though I must admit to sending text messages whilst sat in a queue of traffic (with my hand brake on)... usually to say that I'm going to be late for work!
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[User Picture]From: lothie
2005-11-28 04:30 pm (UTC)
I agree with you. There have been times when I've held long convos on the phone while driving (using a handsfree kit only!), but only the sort of convo where the actual conversation isn't important and I just need to hear a voice because I don't feel well or whatever (and probably shouldn't be driving anyway, but don't have a choice). In general I feel that talking on the telephone while driving is a very bad thing, and much more so if it's not handsfree.
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[User Picture]From: deedee57
2005-11-28 07:30 pm (UTC)
dave you have sure set this thread on fire. As you know i am a school crossing lady so i get to see a lot of things drivers do including talking on mobiles while driving without a hands free kit i also get to see people read books, brush their hair (ladies) while steering with knees. My point of duty is at traffic lights at a crossroads and although i am dressed up like a lemon the number of drivers who stop/slow down/stop at the lights while not paying full attention is rising. It shows when i move out of the road and the lights are still on red and they drive off,phones are only one of the many distractions drivers have but one that is most commonly seen.
I hope that in time all cars are fitted with phone slots that they can be used safley.
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[User Picture]From: rainb0w_brite
2005-11-28 10:22 pm (UTC)
im angry more than ever now dave about this my bros gfs dad has just been involved in a accedent where a driver was on his mobile phone

id read this if u wanna know wot happened http://www.livejournal.com/users/rainb0w_brite/419800.html?mode=reply
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[User Picture]From: crazybee
2005-11-28 10:23 pm (UTC)
btw this isnt just limited to car drivers, what about cyclists, and people walking down the street, they dont even bother looking where they are going damn it. I see it all the goddamn time *growls*
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[User Picture]From: emsee
2005-11-29 09:21 pm (UTC)
Yea, I agree - I'd say that over half the drivers that I see who are driving irratically (usually weaving all over the place or straying dangerously close to cars in another lane) are talking on a hand held mobile.

Of course, if the government & police forces didn't put so much faith in speed cameras and made more money available to get more traffic police on the road then there might be a better chance of these morons being caught.

And don't get me started about car sharing lanes & the number of single people in cars that ignore the rules on those while I'm sitting in a queue in the normal lane! *fume*
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